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Title: Interview with Gloria St. Clair Hayes Richardson
Interviewer: Robert Penn Warren  [bio]
Interviewee(s): Gloria Richardson  [bio]
Recording Date: 2 March [1964]
Originating Library: Historical Sound Recordings Collection, Yale University Music Library
Audio Files: RRTP29a.rm  (35:28)
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Abstract: Gloria Richardson discusses the history of blacks in Cambridge, Maryland, where she is originally from, and their current economic situation. Richardson cites some appalling statistics, including 15% overall unemployment in Dorchester County, which is where Cambridge is located. Richardson recounts how African Americans who live in Cambridge experience employment discrimination in that they are usually “the last hired and first fired.” As a result, many black workers are unable to achieve any kind of seniority in their jobs. When Warren recounts overhearing a conversation in which one white Cambridge citizen blamed his unemployment on blacks' employment, Richardson remarks that this sort of feeling is mostly due to self-preservation on the part of whites who aren’t used to having to compete with African Americans for jobs, especially when jobs are so scarce. Richardson, whose grandfather was on the Cambridge City Council for 50 years, does not attribute her involvement in the civil rights movement to her personal heritage. Instead, she says that unemployment, poverty and hunger are problems that need to be solved whether they are seen as African American problems or white ones. She wants to be a part of that solution, which is why she majored in sociology in college. She hopes that both whites and blacks can come together to solve this problem, although she readily admits attempts at forming biracial unions in Cambridge have been largely unsuccessful. When Warren asks her about “the basis of resentment for federal food aid” (of which Cambridge residents have been recipients since these spikes in unemployment), Richardson remarks that “the resentment comes from the power structure which wants to maintain an image of everyone being well-fed and working [in Cambridge].” Richardson discusses the split between the African American middle class and the laboring class in Cambridge. In fact, Richardson laments that all too often middle class African Americans in Cambridge will use the same rationale as the white power structure to justify not getting involved—poor blacks are lazy, uneducated, and “don’t know how to act.” The rest of the interview deals primarily with questions of “Negro identity,” her beliefs about nonviolence, and the destructive effects of segregation. She discusses how she handled the random violence during the St. Ann demonstrations in Cambridge when rocks were thrown at protesters. It is important to note that she disagrees with non-violence as a philosophy but not as a tactical device. She believes that “loving your enemy is unnatural” and not a necessary component of nonviolence when it is used as a tactical device. She doesn’t advocate non-selective or selective reprisals to racial violence, however, but she does uphold the right of self-defense—“defending one’s property, person, and family from immediate danger.”

Subject(s): African Americans -- Employment -- Maryland -- Cambridge
Discrimination in employment -- Maryland -- Cambridge
African Americans -- Maryland -- Cambridge -- Economic conditions
Unemployment -- Maryland -- Cambridge
Middle class African Americans
African Americans -- Race identity
Nonviolence
Civil rights workers -- Violence against -- Maryland -- Cambridge
Violence in the civil rights movement
Self-defense
Cambridge (Md.)

Notes: Gloria Richardson is very faint at times while Warren is intelligible throughout.

Resource Type: Sound
Format: application/vnd.rn-realmedia
Related Work: Who Speaks for the Negro? by Robert Penn Warren, 1965
Record Number: 45